Married for more than 36 years. Fred and Ann have brought into this world their five children, Brian, Joel, Benjamin, Paul and Loretta. They currently reside in Lake Isabella California.

Fred retired from the federal government in May 2003 and is now busier than ever with all sorts of projects around the house.

Ann continues to quilt and sew. With a current brewd of 9 grandchildren, soon to be 10, she is never without a project. Pajamas, quilts, and hooded towels have been gifts treasured by young ones on birthdays, Christmases etc.